[BlueOnyx:03249] Re: Mailman

Larry Smith lesmith at ecsis.net
Tue Jan 5 16:44:52 -05 2010


On Tue January 5 2010 15:30, Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet wrote:
> Darrell D. Mobley wrote:
> > I know Chris at Virtbiz has replaced Majordomo with Mailman, although I
> > don't know how well he succeeded in the end.
>
> Indeed.   I used information provided on this list, largely from Michael
> S. based on his results running Mailman on the BX listserver.  (See
> [BlueOnyx:02520]).   That got me the basics up and running.
>
> The exact implementation I ran on behalf of a customer took quite a bit
> of tweaking due to the unique nature of the 16 (or so) lists spread
> across 3 domains.  There were a lot of config changes that had to take
> place in order to compensate for the lists coming off of a Plesk system.
>    In addition, some customized procmail scripts were added in to handle
> such tasks as removing "Spam?" tags from subscribed users' submissions,
> rotating paid advertisement banners below user signatures on some lists,
> trimming replies after signatures, and so forth.   We had no fewer than
> 4 people involved in the process, with varying levels of documentation.
>
> Long story short(er), although getting Mailman running in an "off the
> rack" mode was fairly straightforward, the steps taken to get to this
> one-off installation are not in a format I could easily make available.
>
> But... it works VERY well.   And if you're starting from scratch, then
> your requirements for all the little customizations that we did... well
> that's out the window.  :)
>
> > My question is, can Majordomo and Mailman co-exist together on the same
> > server?
>
> That question I am unable to answer.  We uninstalled Majordomo and
> replaced it completely with Mailman.
>
> I don't think there would be anything really preventing you from doing so.
>
> The major caveat would be that there is NO GUI integration for Mailman.
>   (That would be neat, though!)  So you must manually take care of the
> aliases for Sendmail via CLI.   If you've got a handful of lists to do
> one-off, that's not a big deal.  But the more you do, and the more users
> you put on the server, the more likely you are to run into trouble.
>
> Ideally, an enterprising 3rd party developer would release a Mailman
> replacement for Majordomo that integrates into BX.    Plesk has such an
> implementation.  I would even donate a running Plesk install on CentOS5
> with Postfix if somebody were to want to reverse-engineer or get some
> inspiration from it...

Actually, Mailman and postfix are two things quite a few of us have
been "asking" for I believe... (hint, hint)...

-- 
Larry Smith
lesmith at ecsis.net



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