[BlueOnyx:07855] A crucial system component (CCE) is currently not operating. Please try again in a moment.

Wayne Michael wrmichael at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 26 09:55:06 -05 2011



Receiving this error with the 5107R version of blue Onyx. 

a reboot has fixed it in the past. 

A crucial system component (CCE) is currently not operating. Please try again in a moment. 

This error appear when trying to access log on screen for administration. 

Anybody else see this errro?


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>    1. [BlueOnyx:07841] Re: Knock Knock (Colin Jack)
>    2. [BlueOnyx:07842] Shell-Tools - Does it provide a method to
>       list	current settings for site/user? (Jim Scott)
>    3. [BlueOnyx:07843] Re: Shell-Tools - Does it provide a method
>       to	listcurrent settings for site/user? (Jim Scott)
>    4. [BlueOnyx:07844]  Submission port reset issue (William Thackrey)
>    5. [BlueOnyx:07845] Re: Submission port reset issue (webmaster)
>    6. [BlueOnyx:07846] Re: Knock Knock (Darrell D. Mobley)
>    7. [BlueOnyx:07847] Re: php mail function issue (Michael Stauber)
>    8. [BlueOnyx:07848] Re: Knock Knock (Michael Stauber)
>    9. [BlueOnyx:07849] Re: php mail function issue
>       (Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet)
>   10. [BlueOnyx:07850] Re: php mail function issue (Michael Stauber)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:34:31 +0000
> From: "Colin Jack" <colin at mainline.co.uk>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07841] Re: Knock Knock
> To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing List" <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
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> No it hasn't fixed it - that is what is strange.
> 
> All seems okay but every 15 minutes I get an error message saying "Could not connect to /usr/sausalito/cced.socket: No such file or directory
> " ..
> Everything on the server seems fine. cced.socket is in there and cced is running okay.
> 
> Colin
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> 
> I've had this issue some while ago.. it fixed itself.
> Do I understand correct that you fixed it already by restarting CCED? Don't
> know the cause of it, I thought it was just CCED hanging and swatch is just
> telling you about it..
> 
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it
> [mailto:blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it] Namens Colin Jack
> Verzonden: maandag 25 juli 2011 9:15
> Aan: BlueOnyx General Mailing List
> Onderwerp: [BlueOnyx:07823] Re: Knock Knock
> 
> Anybody able to help?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Colin
> 
> > I have started seeing this on one of my BX servers today:
> 
> > Cron <root at vhost1> /usr/sbin/swatch -c /etc/swatch.conf
> 
> > Could not connect to /usr/sausalito/cced.socket: No such file or directory
> 
> > I have restarted cced.init - ran up no errors
> > Ran swatch - no errors
> > GUI all looks fine - status says everything is fine
> 
> > Anybody able to shed any light? Been fine up until now.
> 
> > Colin
> 
> 
> A bit more info ...
> 
> I checked and /usr/cced.socket is there - I deleted it and restarted
> cced.init and it recreated cced.socket okay.
> 
> Colin
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:49:16 -0700
> From: "Jim Scott" <jscott at infoconex.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07842] Shell-Tools - Does it provide a method to
> 	list	current settings for site/user?
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> I am looking at finishing up my web service wrapper around Shell-Tools and as I look at doing so I do not see any obvious way of listing the current settings an account or vsite has? I only seem to be able to add, modify, delete or list all users or all vsites. I need to be able to pass a given site or user and get the settings for that particular user or site. Am I missing something?
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> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:04:41 -0700
> From: "Jim Scott" <jscott at infoconex.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07843] Re: Shell-Tools - Does it provide a method
> 	to	listcurrent settings for site/user?
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> Also would be good if you could list users for a specific vsite.
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> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:12:49 -0500
> From: William Thackrey <LISTS at WETSYSTEMS.COM>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07844]  Submission port reset issue
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
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> Gentlemen ? 
> 
> Does anyone know if there's a way to prevent the loss of the Submission Port setting when Blue Onyx is updated by YUM?  We have clients using port 587.  Every time the server goes through a yum update, the Submission Port checkbox is cleared.  As a result, numerous users cannot send mail until the setting is reset to yes.
> 
> Thanks
> Bill Thackrey
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:22:08 -0500
> From: webmaster <webmaster at oldcabin.net>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07845] Re: Submission port reset issue
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> 
> Wow.  This does not happen to me/my setup..
> 
> If it did my phone would be ringing off the hook each update
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Does anyone know if there's a way to prevent the loss of the 
> >Submission Port setting when Blue Onyx is updated by YUM?  We have 
> >clients using port 587.  Every time the server goes through a yum 
> >update, the Submission Port checkbox is cleared.  As a result, 
> >numerous users cannot send mail until the setting is reset to yes.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Bill Thackrey
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:37:35 -0400
> From: "Darrell D. Mobley" <dmobley at uhostme.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07846] Re: Knock Knock
> To: "'BlueOnyx General Mailing List'" <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it [mailto:blueonyx-
> > bounces at mail.blueonyx.it] On Behalf Of Colin Jack
> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:35 PM
> > To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List
> > Subject: [BlueOnyx:07841] Re: Knock Knock
> > 
> > No it hasn't fixed it - that is what is strange.
> > 
> > All seems okay but every 15 minutes I get an error message saying "Could
> > not connect to /usr/sausalito/cced.socket: No such file or directory
> > " ..
> > Everything on the server seems fine. cced.socket is in there and cced is
> > running okay.
> 
> What are the permissions and owner of that file?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:52:21 +0200
> From: Michael Stauber <mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07847] Re: php mail function issue
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <201107252352.22107.mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> > The problem really 
> > appears to surround the issue of what the sender of the email is.  It 
> > looks to me like "apache" is sending the email, but of course there's no 
> > apache user and you cannot create an apache alias.
> 
> That issue has been around as long as the mail() function has been around:
> 
> You must manually set a (valid!) sender address and pass that info to the mail 
> function. If you don't, then PHP simply assumes "apache at localhost", which of 
> course won't get you anywhere, as Sendmail will reject that sender.
> 
> The "wrong" solution there is to force Apache to use a new default with a 
> working address, which can be done in php.ini. The right solution is to use 
> the mail() function in a way that specifies a working address as sender of the 
> email.
> 
> A yet better method is to not use mail() and to instead use something that has 
> a lot less limitations and allows for more options that actually work.
> 
> See [BlueOnyx:07835], where I posted some examples.
> 
> -- 
> With best regards
> 
> Michael Stauber
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:54:47 +0200
> From: Michael Stauber <mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07848] Re: Knock Knock
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <201107252354.47240.mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Colin,
> 
> > All seems okay but every 15 minutes I get an error message saying "Could
> > not connect to /usr/sausalito/cced.socket: No such file or directory " ..
> > Everything on the server seems fine. cced.socket is in there and cced is
> > running okay.
> 
> That's quite unusual and something is askew there. Please try a reboot and see 
> if that fixes it. I wouldn't wonder if there is a hanging process, which 
> throws Active Monitor off track when it checks CCE.
> 
> -- 
> With best regards
> 
> Michael Stauber
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:13:43 -0500
> From: Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet <cobaltfacts at virtbiz.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07849] Re: php mail function issue
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <4E2DEA97.6080105 at virtbiz.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Michael Stauber wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> > 
> >> The problem really 
> >> appears to surround the issue of what the sender of the email is.  It 
> >> looks to me like "apache" is sending the email, but of course there's no 
> >> apache user and you cannot create an apache alias.
> > 
> > That issue has been around as long as the mail() function has been around:
> > 
> > You must manually set a (valid!) sender address and pass that info to the mail 
> > function. If you don't, then PHP simply assumes "apache at localhost", which of 
> > course won't get you anywhere, as Sendmail will reject that sender.
> > 
> > The "wrong" solution there is to force Apache to use a new default with a 
> > working address, which can be done in php.ini. The right solution is to use 
> > the mail() function in a way that specifies a working address as sender of the 
> > email.
> > 
> > A yet better method is to not use mail() and to instead use something that has 
> > a lot less limitations and allows for more options that actually work.
> > 
> > See [BlueOnyx:07835], where I posted some examples.
> 
> I think I understand what you're saying, but that presents me with an 
> issue:  site's (such as WordPress) are configured to work just sending 
> mail() "out of the box".   This just happens to be the first time I've 
> actually witnessed this behavior on a BlueOnyx box.  We have plenty of 
> others that take a WordPress installation and just run.
> 
> While I understand why the "wrong" solution here is wrong, it would also 
> be "wrong" to try to force / educate every site owner on the box to use 
> WordPress in a way that is different from the vast majority of the 
> world's installations.   So how can I make it "right?"
> 
> -- 
> Chris Gebhardt
> VIRTBIZ Internet Services
> Access, Web Hosting, Colocation, Dedicated
> www.virtbiz.com | toll-free (866) 4 VIRTBIZ
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:33:34 +0200
> From: Michael Stauber <mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:07850] Re: php mail function issue
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <201107260033.34691.mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> > While I understand why the "wrong" solution here is wrong, it would also
> > be "wrong" to try to force / educate every site owner on the box to use
> > WordPress in a way that is different from the vast majority of the
> > world's installations.   So how can I make it "right?"
> 
> I've just seen your offlist email and already replied to that. Here is my 
> answer that I emailed you offlist, just for the list archives:
> 
> By default the PHP mail() function doesn't really let you set a sender. Which 
> is just a major "Doh!"
> 
> After all, any MTA expects a working sender address as the origin of your 
> message, right? And you certainly would like that the recipient of the message 
> can reply back to you, too.
> 
> So PHP and ultimately Apache will just assume some defaults for you, which 
> often do not work. After all, why should they? Especially if you have a dozen 
> sites on the server, then there certainly is no default sender address that 
> works for all of them, right?
> 
> You can get around this by two ways:
> 
> In /etc/php.ini (for Solarspeed PHP that's /home/solarspeed/php/etc/php.ini) 
> you find this line:
> 
> sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i
> 
> ... and change it to this:
> 
> sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i -f working at email.address
> 
> ... where "working at email.address" is a working and valid email address that is 
> used as new default sender for all emails sent with the mail() function.
> 
> However, with that you are back at "square one": All scripts that use the 
> mail() function will use this sender address. Which may not really be what 
> you're looking for.
> 
> Another way is to put this into your PHP script, somewhere above the code 
> where you use the mail() function:
> 
> ini_set("SMTP","smtp.example.com" );
> ini_set('sendmail_from', 'user at example.com'); 
> 
> That then overrides (or sets) the settings in php.ini to the ones you've 
> specified in the script.
> 
> Of course you'd replace "smtp.example.com" and  'user at example.com' with stuff 
> that works for you.
> 
> -- 
> With best regards
> 
> Michael Stauber
> 
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