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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This type of 'baby sitting' is creeping into BO more and more under the banner of 'security'</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>”</span><span lang=NL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“Vote BlueOnyx in 2012”???<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> blueonyx-bounces@blueonyx.it [mailto:blueonyx-bounces@blueonyx.it] <b>On Behalf Of </b>PM<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> BlueOnyx General Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> [BlueOnyx:06920] Re: Disable Strong Passwords<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>And there again I can get by with short local place names. Secure??? I think not</span><span lang=NL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wondering who decided this???</span><span lang=NL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This type of 'baby sitting' is creeping into BO more and more under the banner of 'security'</span><span lang=NL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:lists@hqmatics.nl" title="lists@hqmatics.nl">Tjerk Hacquebord</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:blueonyx@blueonyx.it" title="blueonyx@blueonyx.it">'BlueOnyx General Mailing List'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:12 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [BlueOnyx:06919] Re: Disable Strong Passwords<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That’s exactly my problem with this implementation of the password check.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If only somewhere in the password there is a part of a dictionary word it will deny the password while this password could be very very safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not the first topic about it..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:blueonyx-bounces@blueonyx.it">blueonyx-bounces@blueonyx.it</a> [mailto:blueonyx-bounces@blueonyx.it] <b>Namens </b>Chris Comley<br><b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 7 april 2011 14:56<br><b>Aan:</b> 'BlueOnyx General Mailing List'<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [BlueOnyx:06918] Re: Disable Strong Passwords<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pisses me off when I base a password *<b>around</b>* a word (to make it easier to remember than plain garbage) and it *<b>insists</b>* it’s a dictionary based word. I mean something like “Fred&44Bloggs!+” which, face it, you’re never going to guess, and it’s never going to be found by a dictionary attack. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> blueonyx-bounces@blueonyx.it [mailto:blueonyx-bounces@blueonyx.it] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Doug Harvey<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 April 2011 13:35<br><b>To:</b> BlueOnyx General Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> [BlueOnyx:06917] Re: Disable Strong Passwords<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB>I like the strong passwords. I just have one complaint. If I enter a password: jj%123456&abcdef or something similar, the system will reject it calling it a weak password. If I enter something like: K12345, then the system will call it a strong password.<br><br>Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Ken - Precision Web Hosting, Inc <<a href="mailto:kenlists@precisionweb.net">kenlists@precisionweb.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "User Ernie" <<a href="mailto:ernie@info.eis.net.au">ernie@info.eis.net.au</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@blueonyx.it">blueonyx@blueonyx.it</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:34 PM<br>Subject: [BlueOnyx:06914] Re: Disable Strong Passwords<br><br><br>> There is nothing wrong with the system suggesting if a password is strong<br>> or<br>> weak in the programmers opinion, however a site administrator should<br>> still be able to set what password they want. If a person can't remeber a<br>> password because it's too hard, then they will either set it to auto<br>> entry,<br>> or write it down on a postit note or something equally insecure.<br>><br>> BlueOnyx already locks out dictionary and other brute force attacks quite<br>> well.<br>><br>><br>> - Ernie.<br>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>It's really a pain to have to get yourself off of blacklists because of<br>user=sales password=sales. Then the servers spams all night and you see it<br>in the morning.<br><br>Email software already remembers the passwords. Even the webmail can be set<br>to remember.<br><br>>>brute force attacks<br>If the password is too easy, then it takes so few tries to guess it, that<br>they are not blocked. I've had that happen multiple times.<br><br>----<br>Ken M<br>Precision Web Hosting, Inc.<br><a href="http://www.precisionweb.net" target="_blank">http://www.precisionweb.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Blueonyx mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Blueonyx@blueonyx.it">Blueonyx@blueonyx.it</a><br><a href="http://www.blueonyx.it/mailman/listinfo/blueonyx" target="_blank">http://www.blueonyx.it/mailman/listinfo/blueonyx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=NL><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL>_______________________________________________<br>Blueonyx mailing list<br>Blueonyx@blueonyx.it<br>http://www.blueonyx.it/mailman/listinfo/blueonyx<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>