<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Hopefully this is the last issue I report:</div><div><br></div><div>It appears a Site Admin is unable to create a mailing list. They receive an error that states:</div><div><br></div><div>"Sorry an internal server occurred. Permission for CREATE is denied. Please visit <a href="http://blueonyx.it">http://blueonyx.it</a> for technical info."</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Abdul Rashid Abdullah <<a href="mailto:webmaster@muntada.com">webmaster@muntada.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:58:34 -0500<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> [BlueOnyx:09188] Re: Mailman Conversion<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>I went into sendmail.cf and modified the reference to aliases.majordomo to aliases.mailman.</div><div><br></div><div>I then did a restart of the sendmail services and did a new aliases command. After which things are working now.</div><div><br></div><div>I realize that even though a prefix is made for the mailing list name, an alias without the prefix is also created. So that's good. Only one thing I am missing from the old majordomo days:</div><div><br></div><div>I used to be able to create distribution lists. These were mailing lists that didn't require the senders to be members of the mailing list. I was able to create lists like <a href="mailto:sales@muntada.com">sales@muntada.com</a> and have it expand to multiple folks. It seems with the mailman, you can't do that even though the BlueOnyx GUI interface would lead you to believe that could be done. Am I right or wrong about this conclusion and besides creating an account, assigning it aliases, and do email forwarding, is there any other option?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Rashid</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Abdul Rashid Abdullah <<a href="mailto:webmaster@muntada.com">webmaster@muntada.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:45:33 -0500<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> [BlueOnyx:09187] Re: Mailman Conversion<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>I found in the virtusertable many references to majordomo. I deleted those lines.</div><div><br></div><div>I also did a newaliases command and got the following:</div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@juhfah mail]# newaliases</div><div>/etc/mail/aliases: 71 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 696 bytes total</div><div>newaliases: cannot open /etc/mail/aliases.majordomo: No such file or directory</div></div><div><br></div><div>I am wondering why the reference to aliases.majordomo is still there and if a references to aliases.mailman is there. Where do I look for what builds those references?</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Abdul Rashid Abdullah <<a href="mailto:webmaster@muntada.com">webmaster@muntada.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:37:33 -0500<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> [BlueOnyx:09186] Re: Mailman Conversion<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Ok, I found out why I am getting the numeric. Not happy about that though because it means existing addresses that folks were used to are no longer available:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.blueonyx.it/index.php?page=site-prefix">http://www.blueonyx.it/index.php?page=site-prefix</a></div><div><br></div><div>But I still have the issue that the list address is not working. Not sure what is going on with that.</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Abdul Rashid Abdullah <<a href="mailto:webmaster@muntada.com">webmaster@muntada.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:13:27 -0500<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> [BlueOnyx:09185] Re: Mailman Conversion<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Well, I didn't get a response but I pushed forward anyways. I found the cmuExport and cmuImport doesn't work out but that's fine. I only had three sites on the server that was using majordomo so I manually backed up those lists and then deleted them. I then followed all the instructions posted on the mailman page.</div><div><br></div><div>I created a mailing list. One thing is that it appends a number. Why is that? When I try to email the mailing list I get a user unknown. I try it with the number and still get user unknown.</div><div><br></div><div>Any ideas?</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Abdul Rashid Abdullah <<a href="mailto:webmaster@muntada.com">webmaster@muntada.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:44:29 -0500<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> [BlueOnyx:09179] Re: Mailman Conversion<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>I am hoping someone can confirm that I can/should do the following if I want to convert an existing server that has Majordomo mailing lists on it over to mailman:</div><div><br></div><ol><li>Run cmuExport –n www.sitename.com –d www.sitename.com –c for all sites that have Majordomo mailing lists.</li><li>Delete all existing mailing lists.</li><li>Run the Mailman Installation instructions found at <a href="http://www.blueonyx.it/index.php?page=mailman">http://www.blueonyx.it/index.php?page=mailman</a>.</li><li>Run cmuImport –n www.sitename.com –d www.sitename.com for all sites that HAD Majordomo mailing lists so that it will create mailman mailing lists.</li></ol><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Rashid</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Abdul Rashid Abdullah <<a href="mailto:webmaster@muntada.com">webmaster@muntada.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:30:15 -0500<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> BlueOnyx General Mailing List <<a href="mailto:blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it">blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> [BlueOnyx:09178] Mailman Conversion<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>If I have existing majordomo lists and I do the conversion to Mailman, will these lists migrate over or will I need to basically manually back up these lists and manually re-setup these lists once mail man is installed?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Rashid</div></div></div>
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