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Michael,
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<br />I'd considered switching to RoundCube previously. But I thought I'd read that it required the "maildir" format instead of the OpenWebMail standard "mbox" format.
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<br />But in looking up RouneCube now - it appears that RoundCube bypasses the local file/directory access issues (or format) by using IMAP for access via the local Dovecot server. Is that right?
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<br />I ask because I've considered migrating all the sites on the older 5106R, 5107R, and 5108R servers all to a new big 5209R server. One of the possible problems was the cmuExport/cmuImport of the sites - and then converting them to maildir format. But if RoundCube uses IMAP - I don't need to worry about format. And a CMU utility move will work just fine. Do you agree?
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<br />Chuck
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From: Michael Stauber <mstauber@blueonyx.it>
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To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx@mail.blueonyx.it>
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Sent: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 22:37:19 -0500
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Subject: [BlueOnyx:18920] Re: Openweb mail
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<br />> Hi Ernie,
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> There is a wrapper hack available to make it work, I had to use it on a
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> FreeBSD box. Basically replaced the need for suid Perl which is no longer
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> standard. Do a google on Openwebmail SUID perl, it's in the first couple of
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> hits from memory.
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I know, Ernie. The thing is: The whole SUID-wrapper stuff for
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OpenWebmail actually pre-dates SUID-Perl. So it was only a nasty work
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around to begin with. In the meantime Perl got SUID-Perl and that was
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around for 10-15 years or so, until it got dumped again. There simply is
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little valid need to run Perl as root for this kind of stuff.
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CPAN.org has quite a bunch of useful Perl modules that deal with easy
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access from Perl to POP3 and IMAP mailboxes. So it's actually really
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easy to poll mailboxes via IMAP from within Perl. That totally
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eliminates the need for any Perl based webmail client to require
"root"
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privileges. It also eliminates lots of the intricate stuff in
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OpenWebmail which deals with reading the whole mbox file, parsing it and
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making sense of where one message starts and another ends. The whole
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MIME stuff and handling of encodings in OpenWebmail? There's been Perl
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MIME modules which do that since the end of the 90's. And they do it better.
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But of course: OpenWebmail is so old, it predates all of the newer
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commodities. And it has neither evolved, nor learned new tricks. Worse:
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The newer the underlying Perl gets, the more OpenWebmail shows it's ugly
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face and doesn't play it nice anymore. It's *that* old by now.
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I'm really uncomfortable to keep such old code around. Especially when
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it runs with the SUID-bit when it simply could do without if the code
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was better or more modern. OpenWebmail? Let it die. It served its
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purpose. Good riddance.
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> Better to use Roundcube unless you really need Openwebmail.
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Absolutely! :-)
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With best regards
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Michael Stauber
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