[BlueOnyx:06920] Re: Disable Strong Passwords

PM pm at nm.tm
Thu Apr 7 08:37:00 -05 2011


And there again I can get by with short local place names.  Secure??? I think not

Wondering who decided this???

This  type of 'baby sitting' is creeping into BO more and more under the banner of 'security'



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tjerk Hacquebord 
  To: 'BlueOnyx General Mailing List' 
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:12 PM
  Subject: [BlueOnyx:06919] Re: Disable Strong Passwords


  That's exactly my problem with this implementation of the password check.

  If only somewhere in the password there is a part of a dictionary word it will deny the password while this password could be very very safe.

  Not the first topic about it..

   

   

  Van: blueonyx-bounces at blueonyx.it [mailto:blueonyx-bounces at blueonyx.it] Namens Chris Comley
  Verzonden: donderdag 7 april 2011 14:56
  Aan: 'BlueOnyx General Mailing List'
  Onderwerp: [BlueOnyx:06918] Re: Disable Strong Passwords

   

  Pisses me off when I base a password *around* a word (to make it easier to remember than plain garbage) and it *insists* it's a dictionary based word. I mean something like "Fred&44Bloggs!+" which, face it, you're never going to guess, and it's never going to be found by a dictionary attack. 

   

  From: blueonyx-bounces at blueonyx.it [mailto:blueonyx-bounces at blueonyx.it] On Behalf Of Doug Harvey
  Sent: 07 April 2011 13:35
  To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List
  Subject: [BlueOnyx:06917] Re: Disable Strong Passwords

   

  I like the strong passwords. I just have one complaint.  If I enter a password: jj%123456&abcdef or something similar, the system will reject it calling it a weak password.  If I enter something like: K12345, then the system will call it a strong password.

  Doug



  On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Ken - Precision Web Hosting, Inc <kenlists at precisionweb.net> wrote:


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "User Ernie" <ernie at info.eis.net.au>
  To: <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
  Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:34 PM
  Subject: [BlueOnyx:06914] Re: Disable Strong Passwords


  > There is nothing wrong with the system suggesting if a password is strong
  > or
  > weak in the programmers opinion, however a site administrator should
  > still be able to set what password they want.  If a person can't remeber a
  > password because it's too hard, then they will either set it to auto
  > entry,
  > or write it down on a postit note or something equally insecure.
  >
  > BlueOnyx already locks out dictionary and other brute force attacks quite
  > well.
  >
  >
  > - Ernie.
  >

  It's really a pain to have to get yourself off of blacklists because of
  user=sales password=sales.  Then the servers spams all night and you see it
  in the morning.

  Email software already remembers the passwords. Even the webmail can be set
  to remember.

  >>brute force attacks
  If the password is too easy, then it takes so few tries to guess it, that
  they are not blocked. I've had that happen multiple times.

  ----
  Ken M
  Precision Web Hosting, Inc.
  http://www.precisionweb.net






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