[BlueOnyx:09189] Re: Mailman Conversion

Abdul Rashid Abdullah webmaster at muntada.com
Wed Dec 7 14:41:58 -05 2011


Hopefully this is the last issue I report:

It appears a Site Admin is unable to create a mailing list.  They receive an
error that states:

"Sorry an internal server occurred.  Permission for CREATE is denied.
Please visit http://blueonyx.it for technical info."



From:  Abdul Rashid Abdullah <webmaster at muntada.com>
Reply-To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Date:  Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:58:34 -0500
To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Subject:  [BlueOnyx:09188] Re: Mailman Conversion

I went into sendmail.cf and modified the reference to aliases.majordomo to
aliases.mailman.

I then did a restart of the sendmail services and did a new aliases command.
After which things are working now.

I realize that even though a prefix is made for the mailing list name, an
alias without the prefix is also created.  So that's good.  Only one thing I
am missing from the old majordomo days:

I used to be able to create distribution lists.  These were mailing lists
that didn't require the senders to be members of the mailing list.  I was
able to create lists like sales at muntada.com and have it expand to multiple
folks.  It seems with the mailman, you can't do that even though the
BlueOnyx GUI interface would lead you to believe that could be done.  Am I
right or wrong about this conclusion and besides creating an account,
assigning it aliases, and do email forwarding, is there any other option?

Regards,

Rashid

From:  Abdul Rashid Abdullah <webmaster at muntada.com>
Reply-To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Date:  Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:45:33 -0500
To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Subject:  [BlueOnyx:09187] Re: Mailman Conversion

I found in the virtusertable many references to majordomo.  I deleted those
lines.

I also did a newaliases command and got the following:

[root at juhfah mail]# newaliases
/etc/mail/aliases: 71 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 696 bytes total
newaliases: cannot open /etc/mail/aliases.majordomo: No such file or
directory

I am wondering why the reference to aliases.majordomo is still there and if
a references to aliases.mailman is there.  Where do I look for what builds
those references?

From:  Abdul Rashid Abdullah <webmaster at muntada.com>
Reply-To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Date:  Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:37:33 -0500
To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Subject:  [BlueOnyx:09186] Re: Mailman Conversion

Ok, I found out why I am getting the numeric.  Not happy about that though
because it means existing addresses that folks were used to are no longer
available:

http://www.blueonyx.it/index.php?page=site-prefix

But I still have the issue that the list address is not working.  Not sure
what is going on with that.

From:  Abdul Rashid Abdullah <webmaster at muntada.com>
Reply-To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Date:  Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:13:27 -0500
To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Subject:  [BlueOnyx:09185] Re: Mailman Conversion

Well, I didn't get a response but I pushed forward anyways.  I found the
cmuExport and cmuImport doesn't work out but that's fine.  I only had three
sites on the server that was using majordomo so I manually backed up those
lists and then deleted them.  I then followed all the instructions posted on
the mailman page.

I created a mailing list.  One thing is that it appends a number.  Why is
that?   When I try to email the mailing list I get a user unknown.  I try it
with the number and still get user unknown.

Any ideas?

From:  Abdul Rashid Abdullah <webmaster at muntada.com>
Reply-To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Date:  Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:44:29 -0500
To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Subject:  [BlueOnyx:09179] Re: Mailman Conversion

I am hoping someone can confirm that I can/should do the following if I want
to convert an existing server that has Majordomo mailing lists on it over to
mailman:

1. Run cmuExport ­n www.sitename.com ­d www.sitename.com ­c for all sites
that have Majordomo mailing lists.
2. Delete all existing mailing lists.
3. Run the Mailman Installation instructions found at
http://www.blueonyx.it/index.php?page=mailman.
4. Run cmuImport ­n www.sitename.com ­d  www.sitename.com for all sites that
HAD Majordomo mailing lists so that it will create mailman mailing lists.
Regards,

Rashid

From:  Abdul Rashid Abdullah <webmaster at muntada.com>
Reply-To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Date:  Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:30:15 -0500
To:  BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at mail.blueonyx.it>
Subject:  [BlueOnyx:09178]  Mailman Conversion

If I have existing majordomo lists and I do the conversion to Mailman, will
these lists migrate over or will I need to basically manually back up these
lists and manually re-setup these lists once mail man is installed?

Regards,

Rashid
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