[BlueOnyx:08976] Re: BX in Proxmox

Jeffrey Pellin jeffrey at px2co.net
Sat Nov 5 10:50:25 -05 2011



Hey guys, 

I'm not sure that Eiji really understands what he said there, or said what
he meant - I'm sure it's just a web-based translation issue. 

I know that many of us on the list don't have English as a first language,
but Japanese is really out there, with no latin roots and a completely
different alphabet. I for one would not want to be posting on a Japanese
list. 

Perhaps we should just praise him for his effort and thank him for trying
to contribute. And maybe nudge him in the right direction. 

Good weekend 

Jeffrey 

On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:37:43 -0600, "Chuck Tetlow"  wrote: Eiji, 

How can you berate Michael for something you consider "out of character"??
That's just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard! 

Michael turns out a commercial product in Adventurine. He has a fiscal
stake in it working and will take care of any problems in it. 

But there is a competing product available in Proxmox. It may not have
been designed as a direct competition to Adventurine,
but it will take
customers away from Adventurine. So logically, Michael probably wouldn't
care less if Proxmox doesn't work right - its taking business away from
his commercial product. 

You discover a problem in Proxmox, but expect Michael to fix it?? That's
ludicrous! Why would he spend even one minute fixing a competing product??


Listen. If you've got a problem with Proxmox - go see the Proxmox
developers about it. Don't try to lay the responsibility to fix it on a
competing product's developer. And don't try to lay the responsibility on
the BlueOnyx maillist. While there may be some people on this maillist who
can offer help or suggestions - this list is for BlueOnyx, not Proxmox. 

If you don't get a resolution from the Proxmox developers - then break
down and buy Adventurine. Michael will guarantee that Adventurine works
with BlueOnyx. Apparently the Proxmox people wont!! 

Chuck 

---------- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ----------- 
 From: "Eiji Hamano" 
 To: "BlueOnyx General Mailing
List" 
 Sent: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:36:06 +0900 
 Subject: [BlueOnyx:08971] Re: BX in Proxmox 

> Hi Jeffrey 
> 
> I carried out correctly your directions. 
> One thing I renamed it to "SL-6-blueonyx_5107R_i386.tar.gz", not gzip. 
> 
> But same problem, I faced again. No new ip. 
> 
> >> 6. Go to Virtual Machine Configuration, select the options tab and
turn 
> >> on 
> >> User Quotas. - Save. 
> 
> I setted CPU Units: 1000, Enable User Quotas: yes, 
> Maximum user/group IDs: 500, Grace period (seconds): 0. 
> Is it O.K ? 
> 
> Hi Michael 
> 
> I do not know what kind of circumstances was between you and Proxmox
wiki 
> in the past. So you say a competitor bad. 
> But I want say "It is an action out of character with you". 
> 
> Eiji Hamano 
> 
> > Hi Eiji 
> > 
> > I have this working now. 
> > This is what I did. 
> > 
> > 1. download the 5107R template 
> > 
> > 2. Rename it to SL-6-blueonyx_5107R_i386.tar.gzip 
> > 
> > 3. Upload it to the ProxMox box using the ProxMox admin 
> > 
>
> 4. Shell into the ProxMox box and execute 
> > # cp /etc/vz/dists/scientific.conf SL-6.conf 
> > # cp /etc/vz/dists/scientific.conf SL-6-blueonyx.conf 
> > I did both as it was quicker than finding out which one ProxMox would
use. 
> > 
> > 5. Create a new virtual machine using the ProxMox admin. The password
must 
> > be blueonyx. 
> > 
> > 6. Go to Virtual Machine Configuration, select the options tab and
turn on 
> > User Quotas. - Save. 
> > 
> > 7 Start Virtual machine using the ProxMox admin 
> > 
> > 8. Go to the virtual machine with your browser and complete the
install. 
> > 
> > All the best - nope that this helps you. 
> > 
> > Regards 
> > 
> > Jeffrey 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:00:39 +0900, "Eiji Hamano" 
> > 
> > wrote: 
> >> Hi Jeffrey 
> >> Yes, I tryed it. But httpe error. No port 444 at the IP. 
> >> 
> >> Hi Everybody 
> >> So no one was successful in BO with Proxmox openVZ before in list,
O.K ? 
> >> 
> >> Hi Michael 
> >> You do not support the
template for Proxmox ? 
> >> 
> >> I want to know "Exact information" about it. 
> >> [BlueOnyx:08421] was not it. 
> >> 
> >> Eiji Hamano 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Eiji, 
> >>> 
> >>> I have been too busy to try it, but why not try 
> >>> 
> >>> targetIP:444 as the admin is generally on that port. 
> >>> 
> >>> Regards 
> >>> 
> >>> Jeffrey 
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:16:37 +0900, "Eiji Hamano" 
> >>> 
> >>> wrote: 
> >>>> Hi Jeffrey 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have the complete BO mailing list in PC. 
> >>>> I did ; 
> >>>> cp /etc/vz/dists/centos.conf /etc/vz/dists/blueonyx.conf 
> >>>> Before createing the openVZ BO. 
> >>>> I setted the max IDs to 500 of the BO VPS, after createing it. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> But the target IP showed "Apache 2 Test Page", not BO page. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jeffrey, did you success it ? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Eiji Hamano 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Eiji, 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Michael said 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "... > The first problem was that Proxmox (here a v1.8) need to
have a

> >>>>>> configuration file in /etc/vz/dists, to initialize the vm,
however it 
> >>>>>> uses a "default" file. 
> >>>>>> So I copy dists/centos.conf to dists/blueonyx.conf (because the 
> >>> template 
> >>>>>> was renamed to "blueonyx-xxxxxxxxxxx.tar.gz"), and it uses it
now. I 
> >>>>>> note that there is a "scientific.conf" file which is exactly the
same 
> >>> as 
> >>>>>> centos.conf (and blueonyx.conf, now :) ). ..." 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> on this thread 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Subject: [BlueOnyx:08425] Re: OpenVZ template - can't start setup 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> you can look at this by going to www.blueonyx.it [1] and searching
the 
> >>>>> mailing 
> >>>>> list for proxmox and michael. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I hope that this helps 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Jeffrey 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:17:11 +0900, "Eiji Hamano" 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> wrote: 
> >>>>>> Hi Rodrigo 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I am not clear what you said. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Theres a
post by michael about it 
> >>>>>> Is it [BlueOnyx:08425] ? 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I have a sl - bo running on proxmox 
> >>>>>> Is it openVZ more ? 
> >>>>>> If so, would you let me know the detail of modification ? 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Eiji Hamano 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> From: "rodrigo ordonez" 
> >>>>>>> I think you have to rename a file 
> >>>>>>> So that network configures itself 
> >>>>>>> On boot 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Theres a post by michael about it 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I have a sl - bo running on proxmox 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Hth 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Rodrigo o 
> >>>>>>> Xnet 
> >>>>>>> Servicio email BlackBerry(R) xnet 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> From: Jeffrey Pellin 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Eiji, 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I started the SL6 BO virtual machine and selected the terminal 
> >>>>>>> application 
> >>>>>>> in Proxmox 
> >>>>>>> which logged me into the virtual machine. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> No network device had been detected, so I typed setup
and
selected 
> >>>>>>> Network 
> >>>>>>> setup, but the virtual ethernet adapter wasn't present. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I looked at the logs for the virtual machine in Proxmox and it
shows 
> >>>>> that 
> >>>>>>> udev couldn't run as the kernel (in Proxmox) isn't compatible
with 
> >>> that 
> >>>>>>> version. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I have noticed that the BO page on the Proxmox wiki was deleted
a 
> > few 
> >>>>>>> months ago 
> >>>>>>> so my guess is that, apart from doing a full install in KVM
mode, 
> >>>>>>> this 
> >>>>>>> isn't going 
> >>>>>>> to work at the moment. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> You could use terminal access to configure the network adapter 
> >>> manually 
> >>>>>>> but I really couldn't say what would happen at startup when udev

> >>> failed 
> >>>>>>> each time. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> All the best 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Jeffrey 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:28:00 +0900, "Eiji Hamano" 
> >>>>>>> wrote: 
> >>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey, Ken and
Michael. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> First of all I must say, I already bought Aventurin{e}. 
> >>>>>>>> I am testing it just before production. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So I don't oppose to your recommending Aventurin{e}. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> However I want to say that it is good to having alternative. 
> >>>>>>>> It is good for us. 
> >>>>>>>> It is good for Blueonyx too. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Proxmox also has a commercial package with support too. 
> >>>>>>>> Proxmox has a some which Aventurin{e} doen't have. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> In this case I thought; 
> >>>>>>>> To exchange is more advantageous than a slander to the other,
isn't 
> >>>>> it? 
> >>>>>>>> Do you think it? 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Jeffrey, I desire your report. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Eiji Hamano 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
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