[BlueOnyx:09570] Re: certain email doesn't arrive for a particular domain

John Kelly john.kelly at people.net.au
Fri Feb 10 08:20:04 -05 2012


It might be a stab in the dark here, but there isnt any form of greylisting
in place re receipt of email ??

Greylisting works, except when a major ISP decides if it cant deliver mail
on the first attempt to pass it onto another sending server... Telstra
(Australia's) BigPond (often referred to as PigBond) is a major silly player
in this - I had to whitelist a range of their non sequential IP's
particularly for their wireless internet service so mail could be
delivered....   Might be an idea to check with your uplinks and your own
server re greylisting if it is there..


-----Original Message-----
From: blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it
[mailto:blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it] On Behalf Of Adam Lepp
Sent: Friday, 10 February 2012 2:12 PM
To: 'BlueOnyx General Mailing List'
Subject: [BlueOnyx:09568] Re: certain email doesn't arrive for a particular
domain

I agree - but when I use my own ISP this problem occurs.
I have tried sending from a different computer, also.
There could be some DNS problems with a multitude of IPSs but this
particular set of circumstances is not one that I've personally ever seen.

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-----Original Message-----
From: blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it
[mailto:blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it] On Behalf Of Hans Draaisma -
Netvictory B.V.
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 6:55 PM
To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List
Subject: [BlueOnyx:09567] Re: certain email doesn't arrive for a particular
domain

Hi Adam,

Yes, I understand that. That's why I wrote: "Is your client's office server
"looking" at the same nameservers as the SMTP server at your ISP?"

Ken Marcus made the same assumption just some moments ago.

But it still would be wise to also have a look at the logs on your clients
server if you have access to that machine. The mails have to end up
somewhere.......


Hans Draaisma

On 10 feb 2012, at 00:15, Adam Lepp wrote:

> Thanks Hans -- please note that emails I send from my own Outlook, 
> using
my
> ISP's SMTP, suffer the same problem.
> I look at MailWatch just after the message is sent - and it's not there.
> I sent dozens of emails a day, with no other problems of this type.
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it 
> [mailto:blueonyx-bounces at mail.blueonyx.it] On Behalf Of Hans Draaisma 
> - Netvictory B.V.
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:56 PM
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:09563] Re: certain email doesn't arrive for a
particular
> domain
> 
> 
> Hello Adam,
> 
> It would be a nice start to have a look at the maillogs on the server 
> at your client's office. You can trace 1 of the mails in the logs and 
> see
where
> it is delivered. (Or not delivered offcourse)
> 
> Some other thoughts:
> Is your client's office server "looking" at the same nameservers as 
> the
SMTP
> server at your ISP maybe? If so maybe the domain is in the nameservers
wrong
> or should not be present altogether. (Did the domain transfer from 
> this
ISP
> to you/other registrar recently)
> 
> I have the feeling that your 5106R server is totally fine.
> 
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Hans Draaisma
> Netvictory B.V.  The Netherlands
> 
> 
> On 9 feb 2012, at 23:24, Adam Lepp wrote:
> 
>> I have a 5106R using MailScanner and SpamAssassin from Compass Networks.
>> Usually I can figure out any problems but this one is mysterious.
>> 
>> On one of my sites, emails sent via certain SMTP servers do not arrive.
>> They don't appear in MailWatch -- they're just sent and never arrive. 
>> One
> of
>> the SMTP's is the one from my ISP here in Ohio. The other is the one 
>> used
> at
>> my client's office -- so they're unable to send mail to each other 
>> via Outlook! Messages sent from anywhere else -- including tests I've 
>> run
from
>> AOL, webmail, etc. arrive quickly, as expected.
>> 
>> This site has several aliases, and mail (from all SMTPs) arrives in 
>> all cases.
>> 
>> It isn't a blacklisting from the ISPs -- other domains on the server
> receive
>> email just fine, as do this site's aliases.
>> I have tried changing the virtual site name to one of the aliases, 
>> then changing it back.  In all cases, email from AOL, webmail, etc., 
>> arrives quickly but mail sent from my own ISP's SMTP never seems to 
>> reach MailScanner.  Other ISP's SMTP servers work, and the site is 
>> tested with WebSitePulse twice per hour with no failures since a 
>> (minor) incident
last
>> week.
>> 
>> This problem appears to have started earlier this week. I did have to 
>> restart the server on 2-3-12, when no users' mail went into their boxes.
>> There were extensive YUM updates may have had something to do with it.
>> After the restart everything was fine.  But then this unusual problem 
>> appeared.
>> 
>> Would appreciate advice and potential fixes from my fellow BX 
>> community members.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
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