[BlueOnyx:03040] Re: Proftp timestamps

Michael Stauber mstauber at blueonyx.it
Mon Dec 7 20:43:02 -05 2009


Hi Eiji,

> 1. There is no BlueOnyx server placed in out of Europe,
>    at least in this maillinglist.

Hmm?

http://www.blueonyx.it/pub/BlueOnyx/ 	<- USA
http://devel.blueonyx.it/pub/BlueOnyx/ 	<- USA
http://mirror.blueonyx.de/pub/BlueOnyx/	<- Germany
http://mirror.blueonyx.it/pub/BlueOnyx/	<- Germany
http://blueonyx.precisionweb.net/BlueOnyx/	<- USA
http://bb-one.blueonyx.it/pub/BlueOnyx/	<- Germany
http://www.blueonyx.nl/pub/BlueOnyx/	<- Netherlands

So the main project site and main YUM repository are in the USA. Germany is a 
good choice for European mirrors, as it's smack in the middle of Europe and 
well connected. 

Sure, there is no mirror in Asia, but the project runs on sponsored servers. 
Or sponsor donated mirrors in half the cases. How to set up a mirror (and how 
to get it listed!) is explained here: http://devel.blueonyx.it/trac/

We'd love to have a mirror in Asia, too, but so far nobody came forward and 
offered one.

> 2. The developers of BlueOnyx are not eager for fixing bug
>    in other than Europe.

Not true. It's an open source project and all input is welcome. Including your 
suggested improvement ([BlueOnyx:03007]) which was posted not even five days 
ago. Hey,  I wouldn't even rate it as a bug, as it's a non critical item that 
has no functional impact whatsoever and can easily be addressed from the 
command line by editing proftpd.conf and restarting Xinetd. You even quoted 
the link to the suggested fix.

To incorporate that change in the distribution we'd need to recompile the 
Proftpd SRPM so that the default Proftpd has the suggested lines in it and we 
need to entirely rebuild the virtual host containers from scratch with a 
script to make sure that all the relevant sites don't loose their FTP 
functionality. We already did ProFTPd config changes in the past in a similar 
fashion and it is a bit intrusive and risky. Hence this change is laid off 
until the next scheduled ProFTPd update, when we upgrade ProFTPd to the very 
latest version. Which makes a lot more sense than re-releasing just a rebuilt 
ProFTPd of the same version that we're currently have in usage.

Not even BlueQuartz has that "fix" yet. It was just discussed on the mailing 
list in March 2009 but nothing ever came off it.

If it were something critical we would have been addressed ASAP, but please 
don't expect us to drop the ball and jump the gun just to make sure that a 
trivial configurational change is pushed out hell over heels. Right now there 
is a list of about 8-10 other tickets which are a trifle more critical and 
that probably will get fixed first. I don't say your input is of lesser value 
or less welcome - to the contrary! It's just that there are a handfull of more 
pressing items. But in due course your suggestion will also find it's way into 
BlueOnyx, too.

> 3. The Team of BlueOnyx is a good friend in relatives,
>    but is not good for persons whom an opinion is different.
>    So, it is not OPEN, it might be CLOSED community.

Sorry, but that is not true. Maybe your expectations are slightly off here. 
Commercial grade support and "open source project" are simply two different 
pairs of shoes.

-- 
With best regards

Michael Stauber




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