[BlueOnyx:00141] Re: Initial install issue

Steve Howes steve at geekinter.net
Tue Jan 13 10:30:43 -05 2009


Hi,

I think the Intel ICH7R is 'fakeraid' so is quite driver dependent.  
Best bet is to try and disable anything you can on it and do software  
raid with CentOS. I don't know if the bootable ISO has the ability to  
load fakeraid drivers or not.

Steve

On 13 Jan 2009, at 15:21, Abadata - Jay Vaagen wrote:

> Steve,
>
> The controller is an Intel ICH7R running Raid1
> The motherboard in the server is a TYAN S5191G3NR
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jay Vaagen
> Network Administrator
> Abadata Computer Corporation, Inc.
> jay at abadata.com
> Phone: 989 883 3411
> Fax: 989 883 9313
>
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>   1. [BlueOnyx:00130] Re: When is TAR-ball released? (sho)
>   2. [BlueOnyx:00131] Re: PHP Question (Michael Aronoff)
>   3. [BlueOnyx:00132]  BlueOnyx software
>      (Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet)
>   4. [BlueOnyx:00133] BlueQuartz >> BlueOnyx migration for VIRTBIZ
>      customers (Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet)
>   5. [BlueOnyx:00134] Re: BlueOnyx software (Michael Stauber)
>   6. [BlueOnyx:00135] Re: BlueQuartz >> BlueOnyx migration for
>      VIRTBIZ	customers (Michael Stauber)
>   7. [BlueOnyx:00136] Re: PHP Question (Michael Stauber)
>   8. [BlueOnyx:00137] Re: Various issues wirh BlueOnyx
>      (Tom M?ller-Kortkamp)
>   9. [BlueOnyx:00138]  Initial install issue (Abadata - Jay Vaagen)
>  10. [BlueOnyx:00139] Re: Initial install issue (Steve Howes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:29:18 +0900
> From: sho <sho at ohkun.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00130] Re: When is TAR-ball released?
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <496C189E.7090300 at ohkun.com>
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>
> Michael,
>
>>> The server I plan to use uses Parallels Virtuozzo Containers 4.
>>> And guest OS is CentOS 5.2.
>>>
>>> Available disk space is only 10GB.
>>> I'll add space if it is not enough.
>>
>> Very well. I'll send you a message offlist with another idea which  
>> may get
> you
>> started sooner.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> -- 
> sho <sho at ohkun.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:05:31 -0800
> From: "Michael Aronoff" <maronoff at gmail.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00131] Re: PHP Question
> To: "'BlueOnyx General Mailing List'" <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <F887D48BD3F04708B50CB62F009E2A8B at MALAPTOP>
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> Michael Stauber wrote:
>> It's the same old story: The BlueOnyx GUI needs PHP-5.1.6, or  
>> Sausalito
> will
>> bitch six days 'til Sunday, as it's compiled against that specific  
>> version
> of
>> PHP.
>
> If I could make a humble suggestion, since you have forked BQ into  
> BlueOnyx
> maybe it's time to think about rolling the PHP the admin webserver  
> needs
> into a separate RPM and location so that the default webserver might  
> be more
> easily upgraded and changed without risking the system.
>
> I understand it's easier to throw these ideas out than to do them so I
> understand if there is a good reason for not doing so.  But at this  
> point it
> seems like it could enable better security and easier upgrades by  
> allowing
> the CentOS PHP packages as they are released.
>
> Just another 2cents...
>
> M Aronoff - West Hills, CA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:24:30 -0600
> From: Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet <cobaltfacts at virtbiz.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00132]  BlueOnyx software
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <496C258E.3060704 at virtbiz.com>
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>
> I notice that SolarSpeed has some new BlueOnyx software available.
> Notably, RoundCube webmail.  I've seen this package, and I must say  
> that
> it rocks.
>
> However, I'm interested in the fact that the listing has a * next to  
> it
> (as do some others).   Does the * mean something?  Is it safe to use?
>
> -- 
> Chris Gebhardt
> VIRTBIZ Internet Services
> Access, Web Hosting, Colocation, Dedicated
> www.virtbiz.com | toll-free (866) 4 VIRTBIZ
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:35:14 -0600
> From: Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet <cobaltfacts at virtbiz.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00133] BlueQuartz >> BlueOnyx migration for VIRTBIZ
> 	customers
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <496C2812.2040106 at virtbiz.com>
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> I've been getting a lot of email regarding how to make the switch to
> BlueOnyx.  Since many of you are on this list, this seems like an
> efficient way to make sure everybody has an answer.  I'll re-iterate
> what Michael Stauber has said previously which is there is not a yum
> update from one to the other.  However, CMU works pretty flawlessly.
>
> For VIRTBIZ dedicated server customers that would like to migrate from
> BlueQuartz to BlueOnyx, I am arranging to have free systems made
> available to help with a smooth transition.
>
> There's no need to pay for 2 systems at once if you're making a
> migration.  We can keep both systems alive for you at the same time,  
> on
> the same IP ranges.   We'll fire up the new system, assign it one of
> your IP's and then hand it over for you to make your customizations  
> and
> migration.  When you're done transferring sites across, we'll shut  
> down
> the old system.
>
> If anybody would like more on this, please contact me privately
> (off-list) so we can make the appropriate arrangements.
>
> Since we have varying inventory levels of specific equipment at a  
> given
> time, this will be a first-in/first-out offer.
>
> Non VIRTBIZ customers who are interested in making a migration... I  
> can
> probably also help you out.  Again, email me privately and we can
> discuss specifics.
>
> If this doesn't interest you at all, forgive the intrusion.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- 
> Chris Gebhardt
> VIRTBIZ Internet Services
> Access, Web Hosting, Colocation, Dedicated
> www.virtbiz.com | toll-free (866) 4 VIRTBIZ
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:04:28 +0100
> From: Michael Stauber <mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00134] Re: BlueOnyx software
> To: cobaltfacts at virtbiz.com,	BlueOnyx General Mailing List
> 	<blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <200901130704.28528.mstauber at blueonyx.it>
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>
> Hi Chris,
>
>> I notice that SolarSpeed has some new BlueOnyx software available.
>> Notably, RoundCube webmail.  I've seen this package, and I must say  
>> that
>> it rocks.
>
> Yeah, RoundCube really rocks. Love it a lot. Compared to it other  
> webmail
> clients look old and pale. Although RoundCube is quite a "young"  
> project.
>
>> However, I'm interested in the fact that the listing has a * next  
>> to it
>> (as do some others).   Does the * mean something?  Is it safe to use?
>
> Sorry, should have copied over the explanation from the BlueQuartz  
> software
> page, where that is mentioned.
>
> The PKGs marked with [*] are for self installs. Means: You get the  
> PKG and
> can
> install it yourself. But free install through Solarspeed is also  
> available
> if
> you'd rather have it that way (some do).
>
> There is some software for BlueQuartz and also BlueOnyx where I  
> don't hand
> the
> PKGs out (at the moment, this will change), but only offer it as an
> installation service.
>
> This is/was for various reasons - like the install having too many
> dependencies or requiring additional checks prior or after the  
> install, or
> the PKGs being too big to be installed through the GUI.
>
> The other reason is a bit altruistic, of course. Some software (like  
> the
> AV-SPAM) is a long term commitment. Means: The client buys it, but  
> then
> pretty much indefenitely gets "free" updates of Clam AV and  
> SpamAssassin
> through YUM from me to go alongside. Handing the core PKGs of the AV- 
> SPAM
> out
> to clients may incline a few of them to install 'em on more servers  
> than
> intended.
>
> I do have a mechanism in the pipe which will solve that issue, so  
> that I can
>
> hand all PKGs out directly to clients without having to worry about  
> this. Am
>
> already using it for Aventurin{e} and just need to port it over.
>
> -- 
> With best regards
>
> Michael Stauber
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:09:49 +0100
> From: Michael Stauber <mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00135] Re: BlueQuartz >> BlueOnyx migration for
> 	VIRTBIZ	customers
> To: cobaltfacts at virtbiz.com,	BlueOnyx General Mailing List
> 	<blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <200901130709.49698.mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>> Since many of you are on this list, this seems like an
>> efficient way to make sure everybody has an answer. ?I'll re-iterate
>> what Michael Stauber has said previously which is there is not a yum
>> update from one to the other. ?However, CMU works pretty flawlessly.
>
> That's true. Am still working on a mechanism that will allow to  
> upgrade a
> BlueQuartz to BlueOnyx. But truth to be told: It will not be for the  
> faint
> at
> heart and I cannot guarantee that it will work 100% for everyone.
>
> After all, even the official canon of the CentOS developers is:  
> There is no
> seamless upgrade from CentOS4 to CentOS5.
>
> The more "customized" a BlueQuartz is, the more tricky the procedure  
> will
> get
> anyway. I'll do my best to roll an upgrade mechanism out, but for  
> the time
> being (and even afterwards) CMU will be the safest and cleanest way  
> to do
> it.
>
> -- 
> With best regards
>
> Michael Stauber
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:26:45 +0100
> From: Michael Stauber <mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00136] Re: PHP Question
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <200901130726.45296.mstauber at blueonyx.it>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Michael,
>
>> If I could make a humble suggestion, since you have forked BQ into
> BlueOnyx
>> maybe it's time to think about rolling the PHP the admin webserver  
>> needs
>> into a separate RPM and location so that the default webserver  
>> might be
>> more easily upgraded and changed without risking the system.
>
> Yeah, this was contemplated long and hard prior to release.  
> Especially at
> times when we were really fighting with the odds and sods which  
> stood in the
>
> way of Sausalito running under PHP5. Which it flatly refused for  
> quite some
> time, until we finally tackled that obstacle.
>
> At that time the idea was to keep PHP4 for the GUI and simply just  
> "move" it
>
> out of the way of the vendor supplied PHP-5.1.6.
>
> Likewise, with PHP-5.1.6 being a bit aged (but the CentOS guys keep it
> patched
> security wise) the next idea was just what you suggested: Keep the  
> GUI using
>
> PHP-5.1.6 and provide an additional and more modern PHP for Apache.
>
> However, the issue here is: PHP upgrades often enough. Or there are  
> things
> that need to be patched security wise. If we step away from the CentOS
> supplied PHP, then updates must be provided for it as well. Going  
> that extra
>
> mile - and doing it free of charge - doesn't sounds really  
> compelling. :o)
>
> Upgraded PHP PKGs (PHP-5.2.8 at the moment) are can be ordered through
> Solarspeed for those that need it. It costs a few bucks (50,- EUR) ,  
> but
> once
> you have it, future updates will cost only a fraction of what you paid
> initially (25,- EUR per update).
>
>> But at this point it seems like it could enable better security and  
>> easier
>> upgrades by allowing the CentOS PHP packages as they are released.
>
> Exactly. The CentOS provided PHP-5.1.6 will be kept updated through  
> YUM and
> unless you really need some PHP-5.2.X functions it's the best choice  
> in the
> longer run.
>
> -- 
> With best regards
>
> Michael Stauber
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:07:55 +0100
> From: Tom M?ller-Kortkamp <tmueko at kommunity.net>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00137] Re: Various issues wirh BlueOnyx
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <583E6815-108B-4E6D-8EB3-024E382FDA04 at kommunity.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Am 12.01.2009 um 19:20 schrieb Michael Stauber:
>
>>> the user "root" has a .my.conf Files with the DB-Password in the
>>> [client] section??
>>
>> Hm? Now *that* doesn't sound right. BlueOnyx doesn't make any
>> modification to
>> the /etc/my.cnf file, nor does it store the MySQL access details
>> anywhere
>> outside of the CODB database.
>
>
> No, I wrote that file to have Shell-Access to MySQL ...
> You can forget about this: I found out that this is a browser problem:
> My browser was still authorized to phpMyAdmin as I logged in as "root"
> before and didn't close this window...
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:08:10 -0500
> From: "Abadata - Jay Vaagen" <jay at abadata.com>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00138]  Initial install issue
> To: <blueonyx at blueonyx.it>
> Message-ID: <009101c97590$bfd111a0$3f7334e0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I'm not able to get past the clearpart screen, and get an error  
> relating to
> sda.
> Have anyone else seen this error?
> My server runs SATA raid1. I've tried the install with RAID enabled  
> and
> disabled, and that makes no difference.
> I downloaded the newest release.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jay Vaagen
> Network Administrator
> Abadata Computer Corporation, Inc.
> jay at abadata.com
> Phone: 989 883 3411
> Fax: 989 883 9313
>
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:13:15 +0000
> From: Steve Howes <steve at geekinter.net>
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:00139] Re: Initial install issue
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> On 13 Jan 2009, at 15:08, Abadata - Jay Vaagen wrote:
>> My server runs SATA raid1. I?ve tried the install with RAID enabled
>> and disabled, and that makes no difference.
>>
>
> What raid controller?
>
> S
>
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